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			<title>The &quot;ups and downs&quot;   by stutterdog</title>
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                  &lt;td class=&quot;QuoteText&quot;&gt;So, 'Arry, it looks like the Elland Road ups and downs are those that Uno Hoo, Jailhouse John, and I remember, whereas you and Stutterdog remember the Gelderd Road ones, which presumably are those that  Parksider connects with New Pit. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As Parksider says the whole area was once riddled with coal mines. The 1906 map identifies Busk, Manor, Garden, Hall, and Beggars Hill pits, with Cardigan just off the map to the west, and other unidentified&lt;br&gt;shafts and heaps of arisings that infer yet more sites. To these we can add New and Lee pits. It serves to remind us just how widespread mining was in Leeds in Victorian times.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To add to your piscatorial efforts, we used to go to Old Farnley fish pond for frogs and newts, and to the Fulneck end of Pudsey Beck for minnows and sticklebacks. We did take them home in our jam jars - but not on bikes. Those that survived overnight were the exception. Can't remember if we realised that water-filled jamjars don't go with bikes, or if there was too much uphill for us!   &lt;/td&gt;
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              &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there anyone on this site can settle this problem of where the Beeston Bumps were that me and 'arry remember by kindly downloading an arial photo with the site on ? It should be easy enough to pick out from the air because of the wellworn tracks on it. Between 1946 and 1958 should suffice. Thanks in anticipation. SD  &lt;/td&gt;
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        &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi SD&lt;br&gt;I don't think the U/D's WE remember were ever the Beeston&lt;br&gt;Bumps! Ours was(were?) the Gelderd Bumps. Not that I ever remember em being called owt but the Ups and Downs!&lt;br&gt;Obviously, the Beeston bumps recently described, were&lt;br&gt;at the Elland Rd junction wth the Beeston Ring Road.&lt;br&gt;Near enough to Cottingley cemetery (The Crem wasn't built&lt;br&gt;at the time we are talking about).Nowadays,the M621 divides&lt;br&gt;Gelderd and Elland Roads at that point.&lt;br&gt;Afraid there isn't much close detail on the Aerial photo of the time.&lt;br&gt;In fact I don't think it shows OUR U/D's at all!only the Beeston&lt;br&gt;ones, and not very clearly!&lt;br&gt;Don't we get involved trying to prove a point! LOL not!&lt;br&gt;cheers 'Arry.  &lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We certainly do get involved as you say 'arry, but it keeps us from watching rubbish on the tele!  &lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:39:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Cricket fields and clubs of Leeds   by liits</title>
			<description>&lt;span&gt;How about Amaranth at the far end of Crossgates. The pitch is on part of what was the cordite factory of the WW1 filling factory.  &lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:55:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Cricket fields and clubs of Leeds   by chameleon</title>
			<description>&lt;span&gt;'After sending my last post, I remembered that Crossgates Cricket Club had a pitch in a field at the foot of Appleyards Hill (Austhorpe Lane) below Chapman's Farm (Austhorpe Hall) on land which I believe at that time (50's) belonged to Tadcaster and not to Leeds.'&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This one is still there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:03:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>The &quot;ups and downs&quot;   by 'Arry 'Awk</title>
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            &lt;td class=&quot;QuoteText&quot;&gt;So, 'Arry, it looks like the Elland Road ups and downs are those that Uno Hoo, Jailhouse John, and I remember, whereas you and Stutterdog remember the Gelderd Road ones, which presumably are those that  Parksider connects with New Pit. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As Parksider says the whole area was once riddled with coal mines. The 1906 map identifies Busk, Manor, Garden, Hall, and Beggars Hill pits, with Cardigan just off the map to the west, and other unidentified&lt;br&gt;shafts and heaps of arisings that infer yet more sites. To these we can add New and Lee pits. It serves to remind us just how widespread mining was in Leeds in Victorian times.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To add to your piscatorial efforts, we used to go to Old Farnley fish pond for frogs and newts, and to the Fulneck end of Pudsey Beck for minnows and sticklebacks. We did take them home in our jam jars - but not on bikes. Those that survived overnight were the exception. Can't remember if we realised that water-filled jamjars don't go with bikes, or if there was too much uphill for us!   &lt;/td&gt;
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        &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there anyone on this site can settle this problem of where the Beeston Bumps were that me and 'arry remember by kindly downloading an arial photo with the site on ? It should be easy enough to pick out from the air because of the wellworn tracks on it. Between 1946 and 1958 should suffice. Thanks in anticipation. SD  &lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi SD&lt;br&gt;I don't think the U/D's WE remember were ever the Beeston&lt;br&gt;Bumps! Ours was(were?) the Gelderd Bumps. Not that I ever remember em being called owt but the Ups and Downs!&lt;br&gt;Obviously, the Beeston bumps recently described, were&lt;br&gt;at the Elland Rd junction wth the Beeston Ring Road.&lt;br&gt;Near enough to Cottingley cemetery (The Crem wasn't built&lt;br&gt;at the time we are talking about).Nowadays,the M621 divides&lt;br&gt;Gelderd and Elland Roads at that point.&lt;br&gt;Afraid there isn't much close detail on the Aerial photo of the time.&lt;br&gt;In fact I don't think it shows OUR U/D's at all!only the Beeston&lt;br&gt;ones, and not very clearly!&lt;br&gt;Don't we get involved trying to prove a point! LOL not!&lt;br&gt;cheers 'Arry.  &lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:29:18 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Where are the lost playing fields of Leeds?   by peterg</title>
			<description>&lt;span&gt;I refer to my today's post in the Cricket field thread where I mentioned the vacant land on Penda's Way. Could this be classified as a lost sports field because, although the intention was that it be a sports field, actually it was never used as such.  &lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:52:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Cricket fields and clubs of Leeds   by peterg</title>
			<description>&lt;span&gt;After sending my last post, I remembered that Crossgates Cricket Club had a pitch in a field at the foot of Appleyards Hill (Austhorpe Lane) below Chapman's Farm (Austhorpe Hall) on land which I believe at that time (50's) belonged to Tadcaster and not to Leeds.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a vacant plot of land surrounded by Penda's Way, Kelmscott Green and Kelmscott Crescent, behing the Community Centre) which Gertrude Bray, promotor of the Estate, wanted to be a sports field. Could this be classed as a lost sports field, because, as I was told, between those who wanted a cricket field and those who wanted a football field, there was no agreement and nothing has ever been done. Could anyone clarify the exact legal status of this land because, apart from the Community Centre, nothing has ever been built on it.  &lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:48:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>TV Harrison sports ground and Leeds City Boys FC   by dogduke</title>
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                        &lt;td class=&quot;QuoteText&quot;&gt;This is my great grandad Fred on Oldfield Lane. As well as playing cricket, he also played rugby union for Morley and Yorkshire. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bloke on the left shows that Simon Cowell's tailor was active as far back as the 30's!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;
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                    &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wow that's great!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Only picture I've seen of actual action on the ground.  &lt;/td&gt;
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              &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it's just an informal knock-about, judging by the waistcoat, flat caps and aforementioned trousers!&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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        &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I always wondered when that trend of wearing trousers with waists round the chest started. I recall old guys when I was a kid wearing trousers like this with short braces. Didn't these used to be called &quot;cor blimey trousers&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course it's only a matter of time before the kids start wearing their trousers &quot;high up&quot; - since they have gone as low as they can get!  &lt;/td&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:52:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>TV Harrison sports ground and Leeds City Boys FC   by Leodian</title>
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            &lt;td class=&quot;QuoteText&quot;&gt;[&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I always wondered when that trend of wearing trousers with waists round the chest started. I recall old guys when I was a kid wearing trousers like this with short braces. Didn't these used to be called &quot;cor blimey trousers&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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        &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seems Cor Blimey trousers are courderoy or moleskin baggy trousers tied with string at the knees to stop the rats running up them when you empty the bins as a dustman.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which begs the question name that song.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;'My old man's a dustman' by Lonnie Donegan. A little bit of the song:-&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My old man's a dustman.&lt;br&gt;He wears a dustman's hat.&lt;br&gt;He wears cor blimey trousers&lt;br&gt;and he lives in a council flat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I bet those of a certain age like me are singing it now! &lt;img src=&quot;pics/smileyregular.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Regular Smiley&quot;&gt; Skiffle rules. Well it did once! &lt;img src=&quot;pics/smileyregular.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Regular Smiley&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:12:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>TV Harrison sports ground and Leeds City Boys FC   by The Parksider</title>
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      &lt;td class=&quot;QuoteText&quot;&gt;[&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I always wondered when that trend of wearing trousers with waists round the chest started. I recall old guys when I was a kid wearing trousers like this with short braces. Didn't these used to be called &quot;cor blimey trousers&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seems Cor Blimey trousers are courderoy or moleskin baggy trousers tied with string at the knees to stop the rats running up them when you empty the bins as a dustman.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which begs the question name that song.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:04:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>The &quot;ups and downs&quot;   by stutterdog</title>
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      &lt;td class=&quot;QuoteText&quot;&gt;So, 'Arry, it looks like the Elland Road ups and downs are those that Uno Hoo, Jailhouse John, and I remember, whereas you and Stutterdog remember the Gelderd Road ones, which presumably are those that  Parksider connects with New Pit. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As Parksider says the whole area was once riddled with coal mines. The 1906 map identifies Busk, Manor, Garden, Hall, and Beggars Hill pits, with Cardigan just off the map to the west, and other unidentified&lt;br&gt;shafts and heaps of arisings that infer yet more sites. To these we can add New and Lee pits. It serves to remind us just how widespread mining was in Leeds in Victorian times.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To add to your piscatorial efforts, we used to go to Old Farnley fish pond for frogs and newts, and to the Fulneck end of Pudsey Beck for minnows and sticklebacks. We did take them home in our jam jars - but not on bikes. Those that survived overnight were the exception. Can't remember if we realised that water-filled jamjars don't go with bikes, or if there was too much uphill for us!   &lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there anyone on this site can settle this problem of where the Beeston Bumps were that me and 'arry remember by kindly downloading an arial photo with the site on ? It should be easy enough to pick out from the air because of the wellworn tracks on it. Between 1946 and 1958 should suffice. Thanks in anticipation. SD  &lt;/span&gt;</description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:50:03 GMT</pubDate>
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