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If you search on Sightfinder for Devonshire Ave, it has a wobbly and shows the known site on Street Lane.
NO site is shown on Devonshire Ave.
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Brandy
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| Brunel wrote: |
If you search on Sightfinder for Devonshire Ave, it has a wobbly and shows the known site on Street Lane.
NO site is shown on Devonshire Ave. |
yeah i know what you mean Brunel.And according to the planning office it doesn't even exist?? weired or what?
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| Brandy wrote: |
| Brunel wrote: |
If you search on Sightfinder for Devonshire Ave, it has a wobbly and shows the known site on Street Lane.
NO site is shown on Devonshire Ave. |
yeah i know what you mean Brunel.And according to the planning office it doesn't even exist?? weired or what? |
A couple of posibilities here other than error Brandy, first, the authority may have failed to respond to the application within the time limit thus allowing the mast anyway or, more likely this one comes under the provisions of permitted development where no application is needed.
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Not an O² site, I asked 'em. Their reply:
"There are two O² phone masts located near to Devonshire Ave. they are between St. Ln. and Back Norman Terr.
They are both Macrocell stations.
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Hi, sorry for the threadromancy. Been browsing the site for info on Carr Manors and came across this one.
Pretty sure it isn't a telecoms mast, we usually build them with somewhere for the antennas to radiate from, this photo here shows very little room up top for even a single one (normally three) housed in a shroud. For dual technologies we would probably use 3 2G antenna's and 3 3G antenna's so 99% certain it is not "CSR 17684 Roundhay" - or 3 Multiband antennas depending on what platform was built when.
On a side note, the VF and O2 sites that are close together on sitefinder will likely be merged into one site in the near future due to the sharing agreement between the two companies. So you better get your photo's done quick 
No clue what the image is shown, but asking around to see if anyone knows. That is if there is anybody left to ask, we are all at risk of redundancy
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Cheers keefmoon
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Well, if that's so, we're just left with the mobile operator's adjacent live equipment cabinet, the cable trench between the two and the the exceptionally new condition of an old-fashioned column to explain away.....
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Il still go with the idea that
its to do with the police 02 airwaves
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Well its certainly a design we have never come across before in our offices. I can definately say it is not O2, I've spoken to the new cell planner for the area - which is by the Texaco garage IIRC.
O2 lost Airwaves when Telefonica took over, according to the contract it would go back to the Govt to run (or someone appointed by the Govt) - not sure who it is now. That whole airwaves was a pain in the [edited for content] to set up. Especially when you had the laziest radio planners in the world working on it for hundreds if pounds per day. I'm very surprised that any Airwave masts are on sitefinder website, given that we had to sign the official secrets act to work on it. Kind of giving any crook/terrorist the location to where they can disrupt emergency services comms.
Just found the google walkabout link posted earlier and I can see it better (and the cabinet) compared to the width of the O2 monopole. The photo made it look very slim. Its going to be Vodafone, (as Airwaves would have hopped onto our site at that time) and probably a one off design as it has had our office baffled.
Quick funny story - we have a site by Moortown Allotments which is also a telegraph pole, all sorts of complaints even though planning went through fine. Apparently one of the complaints at the many meetings was that it might affect the organic status of the allotments.
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'Quick funny story - we have a site by Moortown Allotments which is also a telegraph pole, all sorts of complaints even though planning went through fine. Apparently one of the complaints at the many meetings was that it might affect the organic status of the allotments.'
Now that really is a load of ....manure
I agree that it's unlikely a secure syatem would be so easily identified (and vulnerable) and suggested that before, but it certainly was an 02 idetifying badge I saw.
Is Airwaves a brand name or is it diferent to the TETRA networks? We live in almost direct line between two of these masts and problems were horrendous at times but then seemed to tail off lately.
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Airwave use TETRA technology- not 100% sure on the technology myself as I'm not a radio type person myself so its in laymans terms, as they are the only ones I understand myself.
Basically mobile phones - you can only really speak one person to one person, a third person with a third mobile phone can't listen in and talk. TETRA works by broadcasting to everyone with a reciever. So similar to the ones the cabbies use. It stands for Terrestrial Trunked Radio. So when an alert goes out on the police frequency eveybody with coverage and the receiver can hear it. Its just a fancy form of walkie talkies.
As to the O2 identifier, you have me stumped. Perhaps they share our power supply and thats a meter cabinet? We do that quite often when sharing a site so it is possible that it was cheaper to use ours supply instead of digging up more road. One of these days I'll go have a ganders myself, maybe the next farmers market at Oakwood, its on the route.
What problems did you have?
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| keefmoon wrote: |
Airwave use TETRA technology- not 100% sure on the technology myself as I'm not a radio type person myself so its in laymans terms, as they are the only ones I understand myself.
Basically mobile phones - you can only really speak one person to one person, a third person with a third mobile phone can't listen in and talk. TETRA works by broadcasting to everyone with a reciever. So similar to the ones the cabbies use. It stands for Terrestrial Trunked Radio. So when an alert goes out on the police frequency eveybody with coverage and the receiver can hear it. Its just a fancy form of walkie talkies.
As to the O2 identifier, you have me stumped. Perhaps they share our power supply and thats a meter cabinet? We do that quite often when sharing a site so it is possible that it was cheaper to use ours supply instead of digging up more road. One of these days I'll go have a ganders myself, maybe the next farmers market at Oakwood, its on the route.
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Most annoyingly - RFID activated cat flap, for over an hour in the morning and at other periods particularly early evening the thing would go ballisitc locking an d unlocking for all it was worth - poor cats daren't go near it!
Shielding it with a metal plate in front of it stopped it dead, and consultations variously put the cause down to some kind of TETra burst, more than that I couldn't say. Expensive cat flap abandoned 
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Why was a fake stench pipe erected? Because...
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Think I glimpsed another in Roundhay at the w/e - will check and get a pic next time I'm out there.
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| There's a real one just further down Street Lane |
Looks like a vent pipe on a sewer to me.
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